Servers and Wingate - on same PC?

[KazuyaKan]

I currently run a server (http and mail) behind a hardware router/NAT and am considering a software router, mainly to control bandwidth. I'm confused though on one very important question regarding software routers.

Can any additional server apps run on the same PC that the router software is running on, or must those server apps run on a seperate PC?

[neil]

These apps (mail and WWW) can run on the same machine as WinGate, so long as there are no port conflicts. So for example if you are running IIS on port 80, then in WinGate you would either need to stop the WWW proxy, or change the port that the proxy is running on to 8080. (alternatively you could change the port that IIS was running on, thus its all configurable).

Regards

Neil

[KazuyaKan]

Sorry. I'm still abit unclear on this.

My main concern is for the server apps to be behind the router/firewall, running on the same PC, so they will be protected. But as I currently understand it, the server apps wont be protected by the router/firewall if its running on the same PC. It will mearly be directly connected to the WAN side and not be behind the router/firewall, as if it was on the LAN side. Is this true, or will the apps make and recieve request through the router/firewall? I'm trying to make a do-it-all server so that I wont have to run 2 PCs 24/7.

[adrien]

The firewall also protects the WinGate server, so servers running on the WinGate machine will also be protected.

Adrien

[KazuyaKan]

Ok. I finally installed the trial version for testing and all seems well. I'm still a little confused on the settings for the WinGate server, mainly what settings would be best to use for my situation.

Currently, all the PCs are configured by NAT. Each PC in the network has its own assigned IP address, and are not using the WinGate client, although that may change in the future. I plan on using the www proxy with a web server on the same PC, so its been configured to listen to port 8080. However, for some reason, it did not seem to work correctly all the time.

With IE6 configured to use the proxy server and correct port, many of the request came back with web pages missing many elements (mainly graphics). However, I enabled Tranparent Redirects for port 80 in the WinGate www proxy server and removed the proxy server settings in IE6. Now all seems to work fine. Very fast since it seems to now be serving request from the proxy cache, and all the elements load (unless its the first time visiting the site). However, once the web server is up and running, will this interfere in some way, or will it still work? What about the WinGate client? Will that be a better method of connection?

[KazuyaKan]

Well, much to my embarrasment, I forgot that I had "tweaked" my IE6 settings and it looks like it was opening up too many connections at the same time for WinGate to handle. Is there a limit to how many simultaneous connections can be served by WinGate to a client PC? It looks like WinGate is downloading all the web page elements, because the client PC is served the missing elements from WinGates cache. But it looks like WinGate isn't making the same number of connections to the website as the client PC tries to make simultaneous.

But my previous question about the port 80 redirect and proxy usage is something I would still like to know about.