Cable modem to Hardware router

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Cable modem to Hardware router

Postby ramarsh01 » Oct 25 07 3:21 pm

I would like to connect my cable modem to a hardware router and then to my wingate server.

Cable Modem
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Hardware router with VOIP
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wingate server

Couple of questions?
Should i turn off the firewall settings on wingate and leave that to the hardware router or should I turn off the Hardware firewall and allow Wingate to control everything.

One thing i like about wingate is the ability to block my kids from downloading MP3's they have been known to download to many illegal files. Will i still be able to keep this functionality with the above configuration?

thanks. I'm guessing this link will provide me with a good starting point
http://support.qbik.com/index.php?_a=kn ... %3C%2Fa%3E

thanks
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Postby adrien » Oct 25 07 7:26 pm

Hi

It's pretty common to run Wingate behind some other existing firewall. depending on how you set your network up, (i.e. whether or not the Wingate machine has 2 NICs or not), you can still force all traffic through WinGate by making it the only path from your LAN to your firewall and connection.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Adrien
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Postby ramarsh01 » Nov 02 07 2:33 am

On my wingate server i have 2 nic cards 1 for internal and the other for external? I have looked at the page below and im tring to figure out what should i set the internal and external nic card. Currently the internal nic card and network is set for 255.255.255.0. But the diagram doesn't show what the subnet is that connects the external nic on the wingate server to the router.

http://support.qbik.com/index.php?_a=kn ... %3C%2Fa%3E
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Postby logan » Nov 02 07 8:39 am

The rule is generaly" Network adaptors that connect to the internet should be marked as External (untrusted/internet). Network adaptors that connect to your local network should be marked as Internal (trusted/local).

So the network adaptor that points to your hardware router/firewall to get it's internet connection should be marked as External and the adaptor that serves your local network should be internal.
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Postby ramarsh01 » Nov 02 07 8:57 am

I get that part, my network is already setup to use the cable modem. The external nic is already set to extermal and connected to the cable modem. Everything is working fine. I would like to know the easiest way to change the external nic to point to the new hardware router and what i should set the ip and subnet for the new hardware router. Should i use the subnet that is already configured on my client pc's 255.255.255.0 or should I use something else.

Cable Modem
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Hardware router (what would Ip and subnet should i use)
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wingate server(THe dns should point to the hardware router for the external nic but what should i use as the subnet?. I'm guessing the IP address for the external nic should not be 192.16.0.XX because that is already used on my client pcs.

Thanks for your help
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Postby logan » Nov 02 07 9:19 am

You are correct when you say your external network should not be using the 192.168.0.x range because having both the internal and external networks on the same IP range will cause routing issues. I suggest leaving your subnet the same on the external network(255.255.255.0), but using a different private IP range. e.g.

External network: 192.168.1.x/255.255.255.0

Internal network: 192.168.0.x/255.255.255.0


Here's a more complete picture of what I would expect your network to look like. Sorry if it is hard to read. I made it kind of quickly.



Internet
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PublicIP: x.x.x.x
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Hardware Router
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Internal IP: 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0
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External IP: 192.168.1.2/255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DNS Server: 192.168.1.1
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WinGate Computer
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Internal IP: 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: none
DNS Server: none
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Client IP: 192.168.0.x/255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server: 192.168.0.1
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Client Computer
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Postby ramarsh01 » Nov 25 07 11:49 am

Just wanted to say thanks for the advice, it worked great. Actually my router was already configured for 192.168.15.1. I decided to leave it at that so far i haven't noticed any issues.

thanks, better late then never.
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Postby logan » Nov 26 07 1:26 pm

You're welcome! It's good to hear when we have done well :)
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