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Problem with Rules/Restriction for BC

Postby althanis » Jun 21 06 9:21 am

Ive downloaded WinGate and doing some evaluation. It seems to be able to do what I need it to, I just cant get it to do it properly myself.

I'll try to give specific information.

Im on 172.16.30.4, and I have the WinGate server running on my computer. Im using the Scenario3 btw, because Im on a workgroup. I have installed the WGIC on 172.16.30.5, and set the default gateway to myself, and the DNS to myself also (both 172.16.30.4).
The IP of the DSL modem is 172.16.30.1.
All the Subnet Masks are 255.255.0.0 .

Whenever the client computer accesses the Internet, I see the computer's name show up in Clients. So far so good right?

Now, the main reason Im trying out WinGate is to be able to limit bandwidth to different computers, based on their IP addresses.

I enabled, BC, created a restriction for 100kbps.

In the Rules, I created a Rule, gave it a name, applied the rule to the above restriction.

Now, what should be the source, and what should be the destination, and their Subnet Maks?

I tried a few combinations, but none of the times was 172.16.30.5 restricted to 100kps when downloading anything.

Should I be using the external (public) address of the DSL modem anywhere in here?

Clear, concise advice would be highly appreciated.
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Re: Problem with Rules/Restriction for BC

Postby Nev » Jun 21 06 10:27 pm

althanis wrote:Ive downloaded WinGate and doing some evaluation. It seems to be able to do what I need it to, I just cant get it to do it properly myself.

I'll try to give specific information.

Im on 172.16.30.4, and I have the WinGate server running on my computer. Im using the Scenario3 btw, because Im on a workgroup. I have installed the WGIC on 172.16.30.5, and set the default gateway to myself, and the DNS to myself also (both 172.16.30.4).
The IP of the DSL modem is 172.16.30.1.
All the Subnet Masks are 255.255.0.0 .

Whenever the client computer accesses the Internet, I see the computer's name show up in Clients. So far so good right?

Now, the main reason Im trying out WinGate is to be able to l

imit bandwidth to different computers, based on their IP addresses.

I enabled, BC, created a restriction for 100kbps.

In the Rules, I created a Rule, gave it a name, applied the rule to the above restriction.

Now, what should be the source, and what should be the destination, and their Subnet Maks?

I tried a few combinations, but none of the times was 172.16.30.5 restricted to 100kps when downloading anything.

Should I be using the external (public) address of the DSL modem anywhere in here?

Clear, concise advice would be highly appreciated.


Hi,

Yes the DSL modem NIC in the server should be marked as external in the network tab.

I suggest a different Subnet for the internal computers say Class C / 192.168.x would help the routing.

Hope this helps.
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Postby adrien » Jun 22 06 12:34 am

One more thing

If your clients are using the WinGate Client, then they connect to the WinGate service, and then WinGate makes the connections out to the net.

So bandwidth control rules would need to be based on the WinGate connection out to the servers, since you can never tell what port numbers the connections to the clients will be (unless you just use non-specific rules, just IPs, no ports).

Also, note that the restriction is shared by all connections that match the rule, so if you have a 100kbps restriction, and 2 connections through it, then each one would be restricted to 50kbps or thereabouts (we really just restrict the sum total of all traffic that meets the rule).

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Postby althanis » Jun 22 06 1:42 am

Ok, I have changed the Network connection to "External". It wasnt at that before.

And maybe I wasnt clear enough in the OP, but if Im trying to restrict 172.16.30.5 to 100kbps, when Im trying to create the rule, which IP address should I use as the Source, and which IP address should I use at the Destination?

Im going to be restrictng by just IP addresses, no specific ports, just all of them.
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Postby adrien » Jun 23 06 2:47 am

If its just one client on your LAN you want to restrict, for all ports, then you can just use their IP address, make the rule bidirectional.

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Postby althanis » Jun 23 06 8:55 am

adrien wrote:If its just one client on your LAN you want to restrict, for all ports, then you can just use their IP address, make the rule bidirectional.

Adrien


Wow, you guys really are something else.

Twice Ive asked which IP address TO USE AS THE SOURCE, and which IP ADDRESS TO USE AS THE DESTINATION.

But dont bother answering (if youre capable of comprehending what im saying), Ive since moved on to other solutions other than WinGate.
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Re: Problem with Rules/Restriction for BC

Postby deftech » Jun 23 06 10:28 am

Wouldn't the source be 172.16.30.5 (where the packets are coming from) and the destination be the wg server 172.16.30.4 (where they are going to)? Or the source would the wg server 172.16.30.4, and the destination would the internet 0.0.0.0....hmmm

Also doing a quick 'search' on the forums turns up tons of great articles on how to set this up, mr meanie insulter guy.



althanis wrote:Ive downloaded WinGate and doing some evaluation. It seems to be able to do what I need it to, I just cant get it to do it properly myself.

I'll try to give specific information.

Im on 172.16.30.4, and I have the WinGate server running on my computer. Im using the Scenario3 btw, because Im on a workgroup. I have installed the WGIC on 172.16.30.5, and set the default gateway to myself, and the DNS to myself also (both 172.16.30.4).
The IP of the DSL modem is 172.16.30.1.
All the Subnet Masks are 255.255.0.0 .

Whenever the client computer accesses the Internet, I see the computer's name show up in Clients. So far so good right?

Now, the main reason Im trying out WinGate is to be able to limit bandwidth to different computers, based on their IP addresses.

I enabled, BC, created a restriction for 100kbps.

In the Rules, I created a Rule, gave it a name, applied the rule to the above restriction.

Now, what should be the source, and what should be the destination, and their Subnet Maks?

I tried a few combinations, but none of the times was 172.16.30.5 restricted to 100kps when downloading anything.

Should I be using the external (public) address of the DSL modem anywhere in here?

Clear, concise advice would be highly appreciated.
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Postby althanis » Jun 24 06 3:36 am

I actually did a search. I did a search first so that I wouldnt have to bother anyone. The search didnt give me the information that I needed, so I thought Id post the topic as a last resort.

After 2 almost irrelevant responses, and after waiting 2 days, I still didnt get the information I needed. You dont even seem to have it either, so Im not sure why youre posting in this thread.

So much for the much vaunted support, where I cant even get help on a basic configuration.

Ive decided to use CCProxy, I set it up in a few mins.

Thanks (for nothing).
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Postby deftech » Jun 24 06 4:59 am

CCProxy Users' Reviews
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"Easy to use for beginners"

I can see why hehe, good luck!
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Postby althanis » Jun 24 06 7:33 am

Im glad you can see why.

Please address the issue though, you nor the other 2 posters dont seem to have read, or otherwise read and have a hard time comprehending.

You can see in twice I asked the same question, and got no answer from 3 of you.

In fact, you admitted you cant provide the answer, instead you ask more questions:

"Wouldn't the source be 172.16.30.5 (where the packets are coming from) and the destination be the wg server 172.16.30.4 (where they are going to)? Or the source would the wg server 172.16.30.4, and the destination would the internet 0.0.0.0....hmmm "

Dont bother posting a reply, I wont be back here again to read your irrelvant and off-topic answers.
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Postby adrien » Jun 26 06 12:19 pm

Actually you did get an answer. I just assumed you understood the meaning of source.

The short answer is you set the source address to the one you want to restrict.

then set the rule as bidirectional. This will then cover connections to and from this IP.
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