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Wingate VPN with Internet Sharing

Postby imasterxx » Sep 24 04 10:14 am

I'm still new to the whole VPN thing but I was able to connect 2 computers using Wingate VPN. My question is once the VPN connection is made, how do I share the Internet?

(The reason I want to use VPN instead of regular Wingate Proxy Server is because VPN will encrypt the information between computers)

Thanks!
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Postby erwin » Sep 24 04 11:52 am

Hi there

You can use WinGate Proxy Server and WinGate VPN together (VPN component offered for trial when you install WinGate (proxy server) in the same install/gui.

Or we offer a WinGate VPN only Gui version if you just want VPN.

Depending on your communication requrements the TCP mapping services offers an encryption option between two PCs using WinGate.

However WinGate VPN of course extends the functionality of your local network to remote users etc, offers enhanced security etc. And so offers far more then a simple TCP mapping.

So if you want the features of both I suggest using the full WinGate, as I mentioned will allow you to trial WinGate and VPN.

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Wingate Proxy and Wingate VPN working together...

Postby imasterxx » Sep 24 04 2:08 pm

There were a lot of options you offered. Maybe if I explain my situation it'll be easier...

Right now I have a proxy server set up with Wingate through port 21 (I know it's the FTP port but it's the only port that I'm able to access through the LAN at work). I have no other services running except for the WWW proxy server on port 21.

I guess my first question is will I be able to use VPN and the Proxy server with only 1 port? I noticed that VPN uses port 809. If I change that to port 21 (the port that I have open), how will the www proxy server be configured?

Then my next question is how do I configure the Wingate VPN to allow Internet access through the Wingate Proxy Server?

(The way I usually figure things like this out is I'll change something and then run a test to see if I fixed it...trial and error basically. But, unfortunately, I can only test the VPN when I'm away on another network. The problem with this is the trial and error approach will take MUCH longer. This is why I'm seeking help on the steps to configure Wingate)

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Postby adrien » Sep 24 04 4:51 pm

If I understand your scenario, you have a WinGate at home you want to surf through, but you only have unrestricted access on port 21 outbound from your company.

If you set up the VPN control channel to work on port 21, it would still require your company firewall to let UDP traffic out on whatever you configure for your data port. So this would be the first step.

After that, since everything is tunneled over the VPN connection, you still get access to all ports across the VPN... it is only the VPN tunnel packets and control channel that use ports that are seen by your company's firewall.

So you would still be able to connect to the WWW proxy on the WinGate at home, since this connection on port 80 would be tunneled through the VPN.

You would then be best to connect to the internal / LAN interface of your home machine, then you don't need to run a proxy that is available on the net.

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ok here's what i've done so far...

Postby imasterxx » Sep 25 04 2:45 am

here's what I've done so far...

I set up Wingate VPN on one of my home computers and right now I'm at work. I'm able to connect to my home computer using Wingate. I'm able to see the 'Local network of (my computer)' in the Wingate program. When I look at the Microsoft Windows Network tree (in Wingate), I'm able to see the workgroup for my home computer and all the computers that are attached to it (6 computers total).
At this point I must be doing something right because if I weren't connected I wouldn't be able to see any of my LAN computers. There is a problem though...I cannot connect to any of the LAN computers - I can only see them in the Wingate program. They all say (Not accessable) next to the computer name. Sometimes the Not accessable part goes away for a short time, but then it comes right back.

So, obviously, my next couple questions are why can't I access the computers I see through Wingate and how can I fix that problem.
Another question I'll definitely have in the near future is what else will I have to configure (whether it be in the browsers or network settings) to get access through this VPN connection I've established?

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Postby adrien » Sep 29 04 1:09 am

Hi

Those computers only show up there because the remote WinGate VPN server you connected to had the list of its local computers, and sent them through to your local WinGate VPN.

For you to be able to access those machines remotely, they need to have a route back to you. Check http://forums.qbik.com/viewtopic.php?t=2801 for more info
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Postby imasterxx » Sep 29 04 12:58 pm

once i establish a connection to my VPN at home, how do I know for certain it's encrypting the data? (i'm not looking to get on the network to browse computers - i'm using it for just internet access and want to avoid any sniffers from finding my passwords and websites I goto). I'm able to connect to my VPN and access the internet but have no way of testing the encryption. Also, when I connected using the Wingate Internet Client, there was no place to enter a username/password for authentication (i had to treat the incoming IP as an administrator). How come Wingate Internet Client cannot import the settings like the server can?
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Postby adrien » Sep 29 04 6:17 pm

Basically it will be.

You can check if you are really paranoid with a network packet sniffer, you would need to look from another machine though, else you will probably just see the packets before they are encrypted.

You should see a lot of UDP packets with source and destination port of 21 (since that is your tunnel port), and the payload will look like unrecognisable garbage.

the encryption used is 128 bit key Twofish encryption. there are plenty of documents about this on the net that a google search will quickly bring up.

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