[b]Openning Some pages after i use Wingate [/b]

[hourani]

Hello Every On ..

There is a problem when i use the wingate program.
dont know if its from wingate or not !! :o)

well ,, i open some pages " news pages " and it keeps giving me old issues ,, dont know why !! even if i make many refreshs ,, it keep the old page .. so some times i have to go to internal page and then click on home to get the lastest news ..

is it from Wingate or not ?

thanks '

Hourani

[Pascal]

well ,, i open some pages " news pages " and it keeps giving me old issues ,, dont know why !! even if i make many refreshs ,, it keep the old page .. so some times i have to go to internal page and then click on home to get the lastest news ..

There is a quick way to test this. Turn off Caching on WinGate (Temporarily). See if you can get the latest pages then.

Alternatively, you can force a refresh (Which is supposed to ignore any cache checks) by pressing CTRL when clicking refresh (In IE, not sure about other browsers) OR by pressing CTRL-F5.

[nuanda]

I also have a page that post wingate will not refresh.

The forced refresh worked for me. However, disabling the wingate cache did not. Also, I set up caching rules to prevent this particular page from being cached and to purge it as well and it didn't help.

So one has to wonder just what Wingate is doing to cause this problem.

[adrien]

can you see if WinGate is adding this file to its cache?

if not, it may be a message not getting back to the browser properly, and the browser may be using its own cached version of the file.

Is this with the beta of 6.0?

Adrien

[nuanda]

That was fast

Tried deleting all temporary files in IE and it didn't help.

This is wingate 5.2.3

How would one go about testing for the addition of a file? The thing I can think of would be to manually delete all cache contents and then force refresh the page???

[adrien]

depending on how much traffic is going through the server, you should be able to notice files being created in WinGate's cache directory.

If "Additions to cache" is disabled, then no files should ever be created in there.

Adrien

[nuanda]

BTW

If I use IE on the wingate server I get the most recent page. So the wingate server doesn't use the cache?

I'm using NAT and ENS, no proxies.

[adrien]

unless you have configured IE to connect through the proxy on the server, it won't use WinGate's HTTP cache. WinGate doesn't intercept outbound connection from the WinGate machine, only from client machines so it wouldn't redirect it through the proxy (and therefore the cache).

Adrien

[nuanda]

I renamed the cache directory and created a new empty cache and then restarted wingate.

Then I loaded the page, and it did indeed apear in the cache.

So the error lies in the caching rules.
I used NOT HTTP URL Contains "x" where x is a word from the page URL. The page does not use frames.

Any tips on setting up filter criteria?

Is it useful to set up filters to exclude asp, php, and query strings?

Thanks
Mark G

[adrien]

OK.

When using NOT criteria, you have to consider that whilst one rule may ban caching of something, another may allow it. So if you want to block caching of something, you would need to make sure it is blocked in all rules.

Adrien

[nuanda]

Good Tip, Thanks


If I set a criteria that excludes asp pages from caching, will wingate still cache graphics on asp pages? Does wingate cache graphics on pages?

Thanks

[syam]

hello,
i've been following this forum about 2 days ago. i've install wingate 5.2.3 on 22.05.04, that is saturday. until now, on client computer keep displaying old page dated 22 mei. seem to be i've same problem with hourani. i've try to disable caching on 24th, its work, but today client computer kept displaying page on 24th, worst some banner gets socket error.

[Pascal]

Did you disable additions to the cache and lookups in the cache ? If you only disabled additions, you could try cleaning the cache as well. (Open the Cache, select "Purge Now")

[syam]

yes, i've try that already. my god.... now every new client must be comfigure manually, ip, dns, and gateway. i've set automatic on dhcp setting. do i have to remove scope i've made before?

[Pascal]

Why do you need to change the DHCP settings ? There is no way for Caching to affect DHCP ...

[syam]

try and error method....

ok. this is what heppend.

22 mei: wingate 5.2.3 intalled. dhcp setting: semi auto, so i set the scope things. everything work fine.
24 mei: i found that old page problem. disable caching, ok work fine. i remove the first and second check box in caching properties. i add 3 more winxp pc. this new pc must set gateway and dns, otherwise no internet connection.
25 mei: now... ill pc must set dns and gateway, even after i set auto in dhcp setting and client kept dispalying page on 24th.

[syam]

i thing its ok to leave the dhcp problem, since clien can access internet after install certain no to dns and gateway.

now, the caching problem. anyone can help.....

[adrien]

graphics on pages are considered by the browser and the proxy as independent requests so in short blocking caching of .asp files won't block requests for .jpg etc.

If you look in the history in GateKeeper you can see all the requests that are made by a browser just to view a single page.

Adrien

[n0ticer]

these old tweaks work for me :)

for those with caching problem via the client side: pls try this...

Internet Explorer > Tools > Internet Options > General tab... Temporary Internet files... Click Settings button > Check for newer version of store page: tick on "Automatically" and slide down "Amount of disk space to use" to zero (0) to 1Mb (default is 80mb w/c is too big and will store too much cache)

edit ur "Host" or "Hosts.sam" file: example...
192.168.0.1 wingate <"press ENTER after typing the IP & name of your proxy server. my sample is "wingate">

default is 127.0.0.1 localhost

[syam]

thanks.... i've been waiting for someone to answer. unfortunely, the first tip did not solve the problem. i'm bit confuse about the second tip, where to edit the host, client or server?

[n0ticer]

syam,

its for the client side also.

btw, r u using any third party internet accelerator that would prefetch a file or edit ur hostfile...? FastNet or something?

[syam]

which part that have to configure "host". i use download accelerator,... is that it?

i've contact my isp. they said the dns that given is not availlabe anymore. should i remove installed dns at wingate server.

back to caching problem,... what else to do?

6.15 pm (Malaysia time) all the problem solved. thanks to all, Qbik tech, and n0ticer. your tips work. about caching problem, i use "what to purge", and use logic. i'm just follow the example given in "help". so far, just 3 web site have problem with caching. all of them are local news paper.

thanks.... sometimes i got soket error,.... just sometimes.