Use internet proxy through WinGate

[jimjim000000]

My company had turned to WINGATE from originally SYGATE,anyone who want to go to internet must change internet setting in IE browser,but I had used the internet proxy such as www.xxx.edu:80 which need be fixed in same place where now already filled with WINGATE proxy and can't use anymore!

looking for your wise solution!

[erwin]

Hi there

The proxy server setting in IE browser will tell the IE browser application to use the designated server (WinGate) to provide Internet access. Which is why WinGate has been put in place so that any Internet requests will be carried out by WinGate.

From what you are decribing, by putting "http://www.xxx.edu/" in this setting instead will make your client machine attempt to use this link for your proxy server.(Not WinGate)

In this case how will your client machine access the Internet in the first instance to be able to use this proxy server? Do you not wish to use WinGate for Internet access/Proxy Server ?

What is the issue you are seeing ?

Regards
Erwin

[jimjim000000]

I had said that my company had used the SyGate originally,under the SyGate I need not change any setting in IE browser to go to internet and also can use an internet proxy server(www.xxx.edu:80) conveniently which is very important to me for download special resource from special area.
But now I still want use internet proxy server(www.xxx.edu:80),did you mean that I can't use an internet proxy under the WinGate server?

Regards

[erwin]

Hi there

Sounds as though there is a little confusion here.

Entering a proxy server address in Internet Explorer(IE) in the Proxy server setting will force Internet Explorer to use the machine specified at this address to make and complete Internet Explorer requests. ( perform the role of a Proxy server, serving the Internet Explorer access requests of client machines.)

Which is why IE will use the machine that has WinGate installed as its Internet access(Proxy server) since the WinGate machine has been entered here.

The address you have given appears to be a Website url which you connect to on port 80 (which is the port normally used for HTTP(WWW) protocol traffic.

Since your IE is set to use WinGate, when you try and access your special site, (by typing the address in the browser window) WinGate will be used to make the connection on your behalf.

IF it is the case that you want to set this site as a PROXY SERVER in the IE settings then you will need to have a way of connecting to the Internet, in order to be able to reach this site.

SO from your description of what your after, it sounds as though having WinGate set as the Proxy Server will be fine, and allow you to access to the Internet and as a result your special site when you type the address into the browser window.

Regards
Erwin

[jimjim000000]

Thx for your reply!

I'd tell you something to clarify all confusion.First,of corse,I could access internet by WinGate server,but as a Chinese like me can't access all website in the internet such as www.voa.com because the Chinese government control and supervise the whole internet in China.Secondly,some website can't be access by foreign country ip such as download from www.oracle.com.

So I need another proxy(www.xxx.edu:80) over the WinGate(useing SyGate succeed) to provide the privilege of access all website for me.It's mean the liberty to me.

Thank you again.[/img]

[jimjim000000]

[abc_11]

Hi!

You are in the same situation as me... I am trying to get emails thru to China and you are trying to get emails out of China. Have you found any worthwhile medium to do that? Have you looked at the wingate software? Is it working for you? Does a person need to supply the proxies or does the software already supply them?

Cheers!

Jay

[abc_11]

[quote="erwin"]

Hi there,

Quick question...

I wanted to know if the Wingate software actually has the proxy servers already built into the software or do I need to supply them? If so, where do I find good reliable, robust proxies?

Basically, I have contacts in China and I find my emailks getting deleted before they ever reach their intended destination. Can you help?

Thank you Erwin,

Jay

[adrien]

Hi

If you have configured all your clients to connect to another proxy server on the Internet, and you are connecting through WinGate, then you have several options.

1. Don't use the WinGate WWW Proxy, by disabling Connection Interception on the WWW Proxy in WinGate. Then your client machines will just make a normal NAT connection to the proxy you are using on the Internet.

2. Use the WWW Proxy, but configure it itself to connect out through another proxy. On the connections tab in the WWW Proxy you can specify that all connections will go out through another proxy.


Adrien

[abc_11]

Hi Adrien!

So, are you saying that when using WinGate I do not need to buy proxies and I can configure WG in a certain way so I can send my emails through the proxies contained *within* WG? -- Which means my emails should get thru as I want them to. So, when my mail gets sent thru WG the headers are basically stripped? Is this how it works?

Thank you kindly for your reply!

Jay

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Hi

If you have configured all your clients to connect to another proxy server on the Internet, and you are connecting through WinGate, then you have several options.

1. Don't use the WinGate WWW Proxy, by disabling Connection Interception on the WWW Proxy in WinGate. Then your client machines will just make a normal NAT connection to the proxy you are using on the Internet.

2. Use the WWW Proxy, but configure it itself to connect out through another proxy. On the connections tab in the WWW Proxy you can specify that all connections will go out through another proxy.


Adrien

[adrien]

Hi abc_11...

that reply was to the original question.

As for your question, WinGate does have a mail server built in, which will deliver directly to the end server responsible for a destination mailbox.

There is a confusion I think between proxies and proxies though.

WinGate has a built in proxy server for WWW, and a mail server for mail (rather than a proxy). If you were referring to open proxies on the Internet, through which you may connect to surf the Internet, then that is a different matter - a configureation issue. There are many open proxy servers on the Internet.

Adrien

[abc_11]

Hi abc_11...

Hi Adrien,

I just realized you are from the North island. I am here in Motueka, in the S. island.

Ok...

So WG will not "strip" my headers when sending mail into China? Yes? No? That is the main reason why I was interested in using it. If it can't do that, which it looks like it can't, then, as you say, there are open proxy servers on the net.

Thank you kindly for sharing that info. w/ me. I practice Falun Gong and wanted to tell the Chinese people in China the real truth behind the Chinnese propaganda surounding the "so-called" self-immolation incident
in Tianammen Square.

Cheers!

Jay

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that reply was to the original question.

As for your question, WinGate does have a mail server built in, which will deliver directly to the end server responsible for a destination mailbox.

There is a confusion I think between proxies and proxies though.

WinGate has a built in proxy server for WWW, and a mail server for mail (rather than a proxy). If you were referring to open proxies on the Internet, through which you may connect to surf the Internet, then that is a different matter - a configureation issue. There are many open proxy servers on the Internet.

Adrien

[adrien]

Hi

So what do you mean by strip headers?

For mail, headers are added by any server that receives mail, so you would need to send the mail through a proxy that wasn't a mail server, otherwise it would tag the mail with your IP address.

Normally such things are illegal, but there are plenty of open proxies that are open by design for such purposes.

Adrien

[abc_11]

Hi

So what do you mean by strip headers?

==>> remove the email headers

For mail, headers are added by any server that receives mail, so you would need to send the mail through a proxy that wasn't a mail server, otherwise it would tag the mail with your IP address.

==>> I see

Normally such things are illegal, but there are plenty of open proxies that are open by design for such purposes.

==>> Of course, there is nothing illegal about clarifying the truth... but since you are probably not aware what is going on in China and the issue of Falun Gong, you may think what I am attempting to do is illeagal. I understand your confusion. I am pretty sure you would not want me to share what I know ab. this issue so unless you ask me, I will not bother you awith the facts.

Take care, Adrien. I appreciate your gracious assistance in understanding WG.

Have a good life!

Jay

Adrien

[adrien]

No problem. I am also one for clarifying the truth.

When I referred to illegal activities, I was referring to use of open proxies where the owner of the proxy is not aware of that potential use, or that there is even an open proxy on their server (there are tens of thousands of these).

However, where the proxy has been made open for the benefit of others with the knowledge of the owner, then I don't think it is illegal.

I of course can't be seen to be condoning the use of open proxies where it is illegal, however where it is legal, I have no problem with it, and to make effective use of one, you will need some information about how to use it to disguise the source of your mail. There are many sites on the net that describe these sorts of things.

Good luck with your quest!

Adrien

[abc_11]

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Thanks so much Adrien!

I am glad you are also one for
clarifying the truth.

Bye for now,

Jay

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No problem. I am also one for clarifying the truth.

When I referred to illegal activities, I was referring to use of open proxies where the owner of the proxy is not aware of that potential use, or that there is even an open proxy on their server (there are tens of thousands of these).

However, where the proxy has been made open for the benefit of others with the knowledge of the owner, then I don't think it is illegal.

I of course can't be seen to be condoning the use of open proxies where it is illegal, however where it is legal, I have no problem with it, and to make effective use of one, you will need some information about how to use it to disguise the source of your mail. There are many sites on the net that describe these sorts of things.

Good luck with your quest!

Adrien

[jimjim000000]

Hi

If you have configured all your clients to connect to another proxy server on the Internet, and you are connecting through WinGate, then you have several options.

1. Don't use the WinGate WWW Proxy, by disabling Connection Interception on the WWW Proxy in WinGate. Then your client machines will just make a normal NAT connection to the proxy you are using on the Internet.

2. Use the WWW Proxy, but configure it itself to connect out through another proxy. On the connections tab in the WWW Proxy you can specify that all connections will go out through another proxy.


Adrien

Thank you,Adrien.With two opinions you supplied above,do all client must use a unique proxy on the internet?What would happen if some clients want to use www.aaa.com:80 and other clients want to use the direct connect by wingate and I want to use www.xxx.edu:80 as proxy server on the internet?
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Hi Adrien,

I just realized you are from the North island. I am here in Motueka, in the S. island.

Ok...

So WG will not "strip" my headers when sending mail into China? Yes? No? That is the main reason why I was interested in using it. If it can't do that, which it looks like it can't, then, as you say, there are open proxy servers on the net.

Thank you kindly for sharing that info. w/ me. I practice Falun Gong and wanted to tell the Chinese people in China the real truth behind the Chinnese propaganda surounding the "so-called" self-immolation incident
in Tianammen Square.

Cheers!

Jay

Hi abc_11,What's going on?
I had observed that you had religion of FaLunGong.The FaLunGong came from the Buddhism,and the Buddhism has more abstruse and mildness doxy than it.Also I can received one or two letter from FaLunGong believers every day,of course,they were appeared as the junk mail,but as you said the truth is most important.What we should oppose is the treatment of the FaLunGong believers in China which made by Communist government.

[abc_11]

Hi

If you have configured all your clients to connect to another proxy server on the Internet, and you are connecting through WinGate, then you have several options.

1. Don't use the WinGate WWW Proxy, by disabling Connection Interception on the WWW Proxy in WinGate. Then your client machines will just make a normal NAT connection to the proxy you are using on the Internet.

2. Use the WWW Proxy, but configure it itself to connect out through another proxy. On the connections tab in the WWW Proxy you can specify that all connections will go out through another proxy.


Adrien

Thank you,Adrien.With two opinions you supplied above,do all client must use a unique proxy on the internet?What would happen if some clients want to use www.aaa.com:80 and other clients want to use the direct connect by wingate and I want to use www.xxx.edu:80 as proxy server on the internet?
//-----------------------------------------------------------

Hi Adrien,

I just realized you are from the North island. I am here in Motueka, in the S. island.

Ok...

So WG will not "strip" my headers when sending mail into China? Yes? No? That is the main reason why I was interested in using it. If it can't do that, which it looks like it can't, then, as you say, there are open proxy servers on the net.

Thank you kindly for sharing that info. w/ me. I practice Falun Gong and wanted to tell the Chinese people in China the real truth behind the Chinnese propaganda surounding the "so-called" self-immolation incident
in Tianammen Square.

Cheers!

Jay

Hi abc_11,What's going on?

==>> Hi jimjim000000! Thank you for responding.

I had observed that you had religion of FaLunGong.

==>> Actually, it is not a religion, sect, cult or even qigong. It is a very high-level mind, body and heart cultivation system whereby you quickly transform yourself in the deepest, most direct, most fundamental way imaginable. It is literally, emptying oneself of everything that is not sincere, true and good about one's self as well as rectifying any and all illness one may have in their body... including all incurable diseases as there are a set of 5 slow moving exercises that are part of this cultivation system.

The FaLunGong came from the Buddhism

==>> Actually, FG belongs to the school of Buddhism (from now on = "B")but has nothing to do w/ the religion of Buddhism, nor does it have any rituals or formalities.

,and the Buddhism has more abstruse and mildness doxy than it.

==>> Actually, from the way I see it, "B" is a tiny, tiny part of the Great Law that FG teaches... what Buddha taught were just apart of the Great Law, it was not the whole Buddha Law. However, having said that, compassion, truthfulness and forbearance are taught in Buddhism and in FG. Can you explain more about what you mean by: "Buddhism has more abstruse and mildness doxy than it." I am very interested in learning more about your thoughts on this most interesting topic.

Also I can received one or two letter from FaLunGong believers every day,of course,they were appeared as the junk mail,but as you said the truth is most important.

==>> Yes... the truth is most important, because if the truth of one's life is not known, if the purpose of one's life is not known, if the most essential element of one's life is not known, then how can one know the truth of one's life? It will be like dueling with shadows until one turns on the light of truth in one's life. To you, what is "truth"? What does it mean to you? How is it expressed in your life and in your thoughts and in your actions?

What we should oppose is the treatment of the FaLunGong believers in China which made by Communist government.

==>> I agree with you. I have benefited so much from it, so incredibly so, that I will defend FG w/ my life w/o hesitation. It makes one fearless, as one continually empties himself of all of the learned notions, view points and human opinions we have taken to be our own thoughts. One learns to be a genuine being because practicing the truth of one's life brings one in direct contact with the core part of himself, which is as genuine as one can get... it is our original nature... the truth of each person, their essential Self.

==>> What did you think about the FG flyers when you read them? Obviously, you are very aware of many things that many are not aware of. I know you are trying to access websites outside of China, etc. If you tell me directly what you are trying to do, I will do my best to assist you. In fact, I DID OVER 6 HOURS OF RESEARCH ON JUST that kind of thing today and I thought of you often. I may have some things to share w/ you as soon as I find out exactly how I may assist you. I am at your service. I will help you anyway I can. ; - ) It is 2:03 am here in NZ so I will certainly reply to your message when I wake up. Good night to you!

Cheers!

-- Jay

[jimjim000000]

Mr abc_11,I'd greatly appreciate the earnest wish you had that you want to do anything for me,although the necessary for me was merely download software from Oracle.And I'd like to specify some fact to you that every religion must be builded on the beleiver's doubting mind and the rational mind.Notice,never let any other made the decision for you,and you always is yourself's master,those were all from my sincerity.Good luck!

By the way,it seemed not very suitably to discuss a such subject on a technical forum,you can mail me to:jimxp#fescomail.net(change "#" to "@").


Regards!