Wingate Mailbox delivery error

[thornthunder]

Hi everyone.

I'm having a funny one here.

Some mails do net get delivered to the right local mailbox, and then gets dumped into the postmaster bin like I set it up. If you open these mails, you can see they were not sent to someone local, in the "to: " region of the mesg.

But if you take a look at the mail msg. itself, and open up the properties, you notice that the envelope was adressed to the right person with a local box and all. This happens esp. when mail is simply being forwarded by the outside sender sends it to a local box.

I have the settings on to check the msg heading for local adresses, but to no avail. It is almost like Wingate ignores the envelope of the e-mail ?

Advice ?

[adrien]

Hi

Mail delivery is controlled by the SMTP commands rather than by the content of the email (except for in the case of POP3 collection).

Do you see associated .RCP files which look to be correct?

Is this for POP3 collection?

Adrien

[thornthunder]

Our setup is as follows...

We have a domain host and mail server off-site. These mails are then retreived using pop3 collection. The computer doing this is in a DMZ, and holds the mail until the main internal Wingate computer collects the mail from it also using pop3 collection. The mail sorting then takes place on the internal server as this is where the accounts are defined.

If you open one of these stray mails, the "To: " field is ether empty or has the senders name in them, not the intended receiver. Yet like I said, the envelope has the correct details in it.....

[adrien]

Hi

When you say envelope, do you mean some other message headers?

WinGate POP3 collection only sorts based on the To: or CC: fields.

However, if your mail server internally is doing the sorting, can't you just get WinGate to deliver all to one address?

It's a bit odd chaining up the POP3 collection like that, since it normally is a last-resort method to get mail into a system. If the other system doing the original POP3 collection has an SMTP delivery system, it could send the mail to WinGate instead of WinGate having to retrieve it?

Adrien

[thornthunder]

Good Morning.

Ok, I'll include the details..

Received: From Administrator@192.168.0.2 by WinGate (POP3 Collection 6.0.4 (Build 1025)) with POP3 id <0000011256@ate-aerospace.com>;
Fri, 4 Nov 2005 07:09:16 +0200
Received: From catchall@192.168.0.3 by WinGate (POP3 Collection 6.0.4 (Build 1025)) with POP3 id <0000005210@ate-aerospace.com>;
Fri, 4 Nov 2005 07:05:50 +0200
Received: From catchall@ate-aerospace.com@pop3.imaginet.co.za by WinGate (POP3 Collection 6.1.0 (Build 1068)) with POP3 id <0000007109@ate-aerospace.com>;
Fri, 4 Nov 2005 04:03:36 +0200
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As you can see.... it was sent to "To: flightgear-users@flightgear.org" bu the final destenation is actually .. "Envelope-to: niel.agenbag@ate-aerospace.com" ... Thus it never got to the right person... and ends up in the unsorted box....

Is there a way to make Wingate read the "Envelope-to: niel.agenbag@ate-aerospace.com" parrt ?

[adrien]

Hi

We would need to add that functionality, which we can certainly do, but you would be looking at a while before the next release sorry (since we just released one). If there are problems showing up with 6.1, I'll see if I can squeeze this feature into a maintenance release (but we aren't seeing any problems yet with 6.1)

Regards

Adrien

[thornthunder]

Ah, so my problem was not as trivial as I suspected...

OK, I thought about this one over the weekend, and came up with an idea. I tested it this morning, and it seems to work. Would like to run it by you and see what you think.

I wrote a script that reads the header of the file and makes sure that the "enveloped" part's name apears in the "To: " field... This script I run in the directory of the pass on server, and thus it seems to work, but I think time would tell.

Any chance of making this a plugin ?

[adrien]

If the envelope to ends up in the To field it should work.

eventually I would like to have much more user-control over how mail is sorted by POP3 collection - I think that would be better than a plugin for this particular application.

Regards

Adrien