Licences

[SarekHL]

Hello,

a question about the licences: If I use WinGate on one gateway-server and don't have any WGIC-Clients, but 10 computers are using the gateway-server as their default gateway (and wingate intercepts the connections) - do I need a licence for 10 users anyhow?

[Pascal]

Yes, you need a license that will cover the number of concurrent connected users. (Machines) The WinGate Server itself is excluded from this count.

[SarekHL]

Yes, you need a license that will cover the number of concurrent connected users. (Machines) The WinGate Server itself is excluded from this count.

But on the website is it definied as "concurrent users"? So If I have 10 computers connected but only 3 are using the internet at the same time, do I need only 3 licences or really 10?

[genie]

You can get away with 3-user license but it means that at some stage when the load is slightly higher some of your users would not be able to connect.

[SarekHL]

You can get away with 3-user license but it means that at some stage when the load is slightly higher some of your users would not be able to connect.

That is acceptable.

How does WinGate handle computers behind NAT-Routers, for example in the following configuration:

The WinGate-Server is connected with a switch. At this switch are 8 clients connected. Besides there is connected a NAT-router. Behind this router are 5 more clients.

If now 2 clients from the subnet behind the nat-router AND 2 clients which are connected directly to the switch are connecting to the internet: Are that 3 connections (2 computers and 1 router) or 4 connections (4 computers)?

[genie]

Switches do not change source IP address - as such every client coming from behind the switch would require separate license counter. NATing routers would "unite" all client IPs into one outbound IP - so there will be only one license used. However, some of the protocols do not like multiNATing. Besides, Wingate will loose control over the traffic usage per client or client authentication.

[SarekHL]

However, some of the protocols do not like multiNATing.

Which protocols? How about DNS, POP3, SMTP and HTTP?

Besides, Wingate will loose control over the traffic usage per client or client authentication.

But intercepting HTTP-Connections will work? There is no other traffic necessary in the subnet behind the NAT-router ...

[genie]

HTTP will loose authentication on Wingate side. FTP - should be OK but I have seen routers that did not like being NATed twice.

[SarekHL]

HTTP will loose authentication on Wingate side. FTP - should be OK but I have seen routers that did not like being NATed twice.

It will be NATed three times ;) First time in the router of the subnet, second time in WinGate and then in the router between WinGate and the Internet ;)

[genie]

Aye - and that does not improve network performance, does it? ;)

[SarekHL]

Aye - and that does not improve network performance, does it? ;)

Well ... the subnet is a public computerroom of the catholic youth. The bandwith is already limited by the router, so that the youngsters don't misuse the computers for big private downloads ... so the decreased performance will not be a problem ;)

[Pascal]

Yes, you need a license that will cover the number of concurrent connected users. (Machines) The WinGate Server itself is excluded from this count.

But on the website is it definied as "concurrent users"? So If I have 10 computers connected but only 3 are using the internet at the same time, do I need only 3 licences or really 10?

Note I said concurrent connected users. So you need a license count that will cover the users connected at the same time.