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Firewall problem

Postby corpcomp » May 05 04 11:56 pm

After suspecting that the firewall was not functioning on my trial install of WG 5.2.3 I tested it on Shields Up.

The failure that I cannot resolve is ports 1027 & 1029 remain open. Solicited TCP Packets: RECEIVED (FAILED)

Many more ports were open, so I subsequently uninstalled IIS and all the other related stuff.

Now WG is installed on a very naked WIN2K SP4 Server

Any comments would be most appreciated.


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Postby n0ticer » May 06 04 12:40 am

check this thread for your reference:

http://forums.qbik.com/viewtopic.php?t=1726
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Postby corpcomp » May 06 04 8:35 am

Thank you

Yes, had already read that topic.

Have setup Extended Networking for the following:

Enable Extended Network Driver
General Purpose Internet Sharing
High: Denies all connections from outside

Disable network name broadcasts to the internet
Discard spoofing packets

No entries in port security and default action is set to deny


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Postby adrien » May 06 04 11:34 am

Hi

What connection to the internet do you use? Is it a dialup or ADSL that uses dialup networking to connect?

If so, does this interface show up in WinGate as untrusted and external?

You may need to change these settings - go to Gatekeeper, log in, options->Advanced->Network interfaces.

If your external interface is not deemed by WinGate to be external (which should only happen if it has a private IP address) then the firewall rules would not be being applied....

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Postby corpcomp » May 06 04 7:08 pm

56K Dialup

Network Interfaces:
LAN: Public, NO Trusted, YES
Dialup: Public, YES Trusted NO
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Postby adrien » May 06 04 7:27 pm

hmmmm

If you dial to the Internet, then restart the WinGate engine (without breaking the dialup connection), then run the shieldsup test, what happens then? I'm just wondering if there is a timing or updating issue for updating the ENS driver with changes to the interfaces when you connect by dialup.

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Postby corpcomp » May 06 04 9:28 pm

The same result happens.

I have been wondering if my WIN2KSP4 (stand alone) server is doing something untoward because there were lots more ports open untill I uninstalled the IIS server completely. However I don't know how or what to test on the server to see if something there is holding the ports open.
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Postby Nev » May 07 04 10:19 pm

corpcomp wrote:The same result happens.

I have been wondering if my WIN2KSP4 (stand alone) server is doing something untoward because there were lots more ports open untill I uninstalled the IIS server completely. However I don't know how or what to test on the server to see if something there is holding the ports open.


Just a thought could it be Sasser/Wechia/MsBlaster pests or similar?

Admins could find this handy: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... A42D14CC17

Good luck!
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Postby corpcomp » May 07 04 10:41 pm

Hi Nev

Have just been through that. A virus took this server down, it has just been through a total rebuild with all available patches from MS. Installed ServerProtect 5.5 on the system prior to any updates. Even downloaded the new pattern files on a different network to ensure no problems. ServerProtect hasn't picked anything up, and other checkers from Symantec & Grisoft detect nothing.

I have become quite convinced there is a problem serverside, and not with WG itself, after all, no one else seems to be having the same problems.

Only problem with that is I don't have sufficent knowledge on how to go about finding out just what is causing the problem. Only hope I can sort it out and demonstarte the system to my client before this trial key expires.
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Postby corpcomp » May 07 04 10:41 pm

Hi Nev

Have just been through that. A virus took this server down, it has just been through a total rebuild with all available patches from MS. Installed ServerProtect 5.5 on the system prior to any updates. Even downloaded the new pattern files on a different network to ensure no problems. ServerProtect hasn't picked anything up, and other checkers from Symantec & Grisoft detect nothing.

I have become quite convinced there is a problem serverside, and not with WG itself, after all, no one else seems to be having the same problems.

Only problem with that is I don't have sufficent knowledge on how to go about finding out just what is causing the problem. Only hope I can sort it out and demonstarte the system to my client before this trial key expires.
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Postby n0ticer » May 07 04 11:30 pm

corpcomp

I have been wondering if my WIN2KSP4 (stand alone) server is doing something untoward because there were lots more ports open untill I uninstalled the IIS server completely. However I don't know how or what to test on the server to see if something there is holding the ports open.


may be this cud help...
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/activeports.html
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Postby adrien » May 08 04 1:39 am

if you download Netpatrol from our site, you can run the portlist tool that comes with it. That will show you which applications have which ports open.

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Postby corpcomp » May 08 04 9:04 am

Thanks for that Adrien

It seems that msdtc.exe is holding port 1027 open and MSTask.exe is holding port 1029 open.

Will investigate MS KB in an attempt to resolve.

I did note in the short amount of time (<5 minutes) it took me to find this information, netpatrol detected a number of Potential W32.Blaster.Worm attackes. WG showed nothing in the firewall, and ServerProtect shows nothing in the log.

Am looking into things conciderably further now.
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Postby corpcomp » May 09 04 1:13 pm

Problem Solved

After some considerable investigation I found that I had misconfigured WG.

Here is what I had to do to get the system to pass all security tests I could throw at it.

Extended Networking|Port Security
Connections from the Internet: TCP & UDP Default action = Deny
LAN connections to WinGate PC: TCP & UDP Default action = Deny. Add a filter for port 53 UDP (DNS) to Allow Packet. If you don't add this filter WG won't go out to the internet to resolved DNS.
LAN connections to Internet: Default action = Allow with Cloaking. This may work without cloaking.

Extended Networking|Firewall
Uncheck Allow users to ping this machine localy. If left checked the ping is visible from the Internet. It shouldn't but it does.

I am sorry if this sounds wrong, but at the end of the day this server is now passing all security tests and entries now appear in the Firewall window.

Many thanks to those who have given their pointers and comments.
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Postby senquan » May 26 04 9:43 pm

hi all

The same problem . It seem that the Wingate can not distinguish internet connection from local.

My OS is xp pro. With PPPoE dial-up access.

And I'm sure that the dial-up interface has been set to Public:Yes and Trusted:No.
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Postby corpcomp » May 27 04 9:23 am

It seems WinGate has undergone a number of changes since I first started using it some years ago (ver 3).

Regrettably I have now changed and am no longer using Wingate because it is so problematic.

Maybe Qbic will stop attempting to keep up with Microsoft and get down to the task of actually getting the product bug free instead of putting in new tricks.

At the end of the day they HAD a good product, and if they had stay with the good old adage “if it isn't broken don't fix it" they would still have a winner.

All dues to them though, they are giving it a good try. Just they now have a long ways to go.

Note to Qbik: You should have kept WinGate as it was, a firewall doesn’t need an email server, shouldn’t need a client, doesn’t need spam control. A firewall should be just that, “a firewall” Heck guys, use the KISS factor “Keep It Simple Stupid”.
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DNS service problem

Postby juncool » Jun 08 04 6:59 pm

We installed wingate 5.23 on our internet gateway PC, but sometimes client PC can not access internet and browser prompt "DNS error",at these time we logged into gatekeeper and see many "DNS look up"message in activity window, and we test web browsing at gateway PC and there were no problems. could you please tell us how to solve this problem?
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