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pre purchase question:Can i do it with wingate

Postby frank1 » Jan 09 10 11:12 pm

I have 256kbps POPEE broadband cable internet

and another around 200kbps cdma wireless internet.

I want to combine both and get aggregrated bandwidth during downloading ,ie use both simultaneously.

Can i do it with wingate?
i read in many forum wingate is the solution,so can it?

if yes,do i need to do any thing extra?

i am using vista and single port router for cable and usb cmda modem for wireless internet now

thanks
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Re: pre purchase question:Can i do it with wingate

Postby frank1 » Jan 10 10 6:37 pm

can't be done?
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Re: pre purchase question:Can i do it with wingate

Postby logan » Jan 11 10 2:19 pm

You can combine multiple internet connections using the gateways tab of any service in WinGate that has one. The gateways tab let's you control how that service uses the gateways it has available to it.

Set the connection scheme to "Use gateways in rotation" and add your two dial up modems to the list of gateways. This will make the service rotate all outbound connections around the listed gateways.

I have included an example screen shot. I only have one network adaptor on this computer, so I just added it twice.
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Re: pre purchase question:Can i do it with wingate

Postby ChrisH » Jan 11 10 3:39 pm

I would recommend that you download and trial WinGate first to to be sure that it meets your needs.
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Re: pre purchase question:Can i do it with wingate

Postby frank1 » Jan 11 10 4:06 pm

logan wrote:You can combine multiple internet connections using the gateways tab of any service in WinGate that has one. The gateways tab let's you control how that service uses the gateways it has available to it.

Set the connection scheme to .

Really thanks for answer
i have inface already downloaded a trail version.

i will try it

My one connection is wireless cdma and other is cable ,so was bit confused.
Any way i will give a try.
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Re: pre purchase question:Can i do it with wingate

Postby frank1 » Jan 11 10 4:44 pm

i have tested it...but seems like proxy and some more config is required
now only latest connection is used
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Re: pre purchase question:Can i do it with wingate

Postby logan » Jan 11 10 6:53 pm

Sorry, your question is a rather common one so I had recycled an earlier reply. It still applies to your scenario.

The proxy is where gateway rotation happens so all client connections must be routed through the proxy (i.e. there's no gateway rotation for plain NAT).

There are other programs on computers that can nullify WinGate's gateway selection rules. The most common problem that causes gateway selection to not work as expected is the Application Layer Gateway (or ALG) service in Windows. If this service is present on your machine and running, disable it. If you continue having problems, do you have any AV software installed that would intercept outgoing traffic?
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Re: pre purchase question:Can i do it with wingate

Postby Alen » Jan 11 10 10:03 pm

And frank1, don't forget, if you are making only one connection or downloading only one file, two lines could not be used simultaneously!
Two lines are used by turn for each new (proxy!) request. So you will feel the difference only if you are making a few or better a lot of similar requests. I mean, downloading one large file and surfing 10 web-sites will not allow you to fully feel the difference too, because the line used for downloading will be fully clogged.

So if you are a home user, not an office admin, I doubt Wingate will justify your hopes...
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Re: pre purchase question:Can i do it with wingate

Postby frank1 » Jan 12 10 6:20 am

Alen wrote:And frank1, don't forget, if you are making only one connection or downloading only one file, two lines could not be used simultaneously!
Two lines are used by turn for each new (proxy!) request. So you will feel the difference only if you are making a few or better a lot of similar requests. I mean, downloading one large file and surfing 10 web-sites will not allow you to fully feel the difference too, because the line used for downloading will be fully clogged.

So if you are a home user, not an office admin, I doubt Wingate will justify your hopes...

thanks
does that mean that wingate wont be able to give me what i want?

i am a programmer and not network person.
what i want is
i have one connection which downloads at 50KBps and 2nd connection which downloads at 20KBps ,now what i want is get 65-70KBps download speed using both

not
use connection 1 and if it goes down then use line 2

i came through this tutorial
asadahmad.com/tutorials/tut_multiple_connections.htm

and felt it could be done.

so is the tutorial not complete...
it uses word "use both connection simulatenously...." not in turn

i was lost in that proxy part and seems like screen shot are also for old version
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Re: pre purchase question:Can i do it with wingate

Postby Alen » Jan 12 10 8:56 am

frank1 wrote:i have one connection which downloads at 50KBps and 2nd connection which downloads at 20KBps ,now what i want is get 65-70KBps download speed using both
not use connection 1 and if it goes down then use line 2

frank1 wrote:it uses word "use both connection simulatenously...." not in turn

I believe I already gave you an answer.

Connections work simultaneously by servicing requests by turn: firts request goes through the first connection, second - second, third - again via first, etc. This means, that if you open just one url your connection speed will be 50kbps or 20kbps: depending on the line which serviced your request. You get speed agregation only when you make several requests\ downloading several files simultaneously, and you cann't get this by single request.

Is it clear now?

frank1 wrote:does that mean that wingate wont be able to give me what i want?

And what do you want to get?
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Re: pre purchase question:Can i do it with wingate

Postby frank1 » Jan 12 10 5:39 pm

Alen wrote:
frank1 wrote:i have one connection which downloads at 50KBps and 2nd connection which downloads at 20KBps ,now what i want is get 65-70KBps download speed using both


Is it clear now?

frank1 wrote:does that mean that wingate wont be able to give me what i want?

And what do you want to get?

thanks,i think i got it.
May be that means the download wont be 70KBps rather when i download one file with 50Kbps(one line),i may be able to start another download with 20KBps (2nd line) as it would be free....and i will be able to use both connection at once?
isn't it?

any way,i did same as shown in screenshot above,but it uses latest connection only and seems like it needs proxy.
Could you please quickly go into how to get/install proxy to make it work on wingate(What i want is use both connections simultaneously).
Sorry,as i am not network guy.

thanks for support.
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Re: pre purchase question:Can i do it with wingate

Postby Alen » Jan 12 10 7:43 pm

frank1 wrote:thanks,i think i got it.
May be that means the download wont be 70KBps rather when i download one file with 50Kbps(one line),i may be able to start another download with 20KBps (2nd line) as it would be free....and i will be able to use both connection at once?
isn't it?

Yes, exactly.


frank1 wrote:any way,i did same as shown in screenshot above,but it uses latest connection only and seems like it needs proxy.

Yes, all connections to Internet Wingate realizes through its services: NAT (ENS) service, Web, FTP and other proxies, other system services. And only services which support gateway specification (have "Gateways" submenu on the services configuration window) can utilize multiconnection.
As you did not set up any Proxy you are using NAT connection method, which does not support "multigateways". You need to configure web and other types of proxies that you need (not all of them support multigateways, but you'll need at first web and may be FTP proxies which do support it).

Hot to do it: read help or wait for the Qbic staff. Sorry I am at work (and you will ask too many questions if you did not read the manual first).
Good luck.
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